we made it!!!! 18 and a half hours later we made it in Hoi An yes!!!! so proud of us both the bus picked us up half hour late and yes it had a loo was so greateful as was so nervous all day about it not having one, then we grabbed soem seats and then waited and waited and finally another 2 and a half hours later we left bloody vietnam time! We had a stop in 2 hours so had a stretch then then took the sleeping pill our trusted pharmacist friend in bangkok gave to us and we both passed out pretty much the whole way and woke up again at Hue where we were either going to get off and spend a night b4 carrying onto hoi an but we deciueed to stay on for the extra 5 and half hours to make it a bit further down, bit like a cattle market getting off as they drop you off at a hotel or guest house and chose if you like the toom etc so we liked it and staying here for a few days before we face yet another 12 hour bus trip down to hha trang but this one doesnt have a loo i dont think so am terrified!!!! wea5ther is nice and hot agin yipee!!!